texshelters

Obama Shows his Hatred of Israel by Admitting Palestinians are Human

In Current Events, World Affairs on May 28, 2011 at 02:09

Note: I wasn’t planning on writing about Obama’s speech and the Israel/Palestine conflict. However, the reactionary comments regarding Obama as an “enemy of Israel” by otherwise intelligent Jewish friends has motivated me to set the record straight on Obama’s speech.

From Obama’s Mideast speech: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/144336

“Our commitment to Israel’s security is unshakeable. And we will stand against attempts to single it out for criticism in international forums.”

Committing to Israel must be Obama’s hatred against Israel that people are talking about.

“Israel as a Jewish state and the homeland for the Jewish people, and the state of Palestine as the homeland for the Palestinian people, each state enjoying self-determination, mutual recognition, and peace.”

Mentioning Palestine, homeland, and people in the same sentence shows hatred of Israel Obama was showing, right?

“So while the core issues of the conflict must be negotiated, the basis of those negotiations is clear: a viable Palestine, a secure Israel.”

How Dare Obama hate Israel by stating their need to be secure!

What is it that drives so many seemingly reasonable people to become irrational when you mention Israel and ANY peace plan? I don’t even get this riled up when you say, “Teachers are to blame for our failing schools.”

Talking about Israel and the Palestine/Israeli conflict with some Jewish people is like talking about god to an evangelical that is trying to convert you. No amount of facts will get in the way of their opinions, and non-Jews “will never understand.”

Here’s the line that drives extreme Zionists crazy, “We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.”

Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu focused on that sentence as a way to say, “Peace will never happen”. The 1967 border is, in fact, a false issue. If you look at the 1967 borders and the current borders, they are almost the same:

Israeli Border--1967

Modern Israeli Border

The pale blue is Israel, and as you see, the borders are almost the same today as they were in 1967 (left). If Israel was indefensible then as Netanyahu proclaimed, http://smpalestine.com/2011/05/19/netanyahus-response-to-obamas-speech-reveals-israels-unconditional-defiance-of-international-law/  then it is now. The difference is that today Israel has the most modern and best-trained army in the region and it wasn’t so well equipped in 1967. And Obama said nothing about going back to 1967 technology, did he?

“Slew Of House Republicans Falsely Claim President Obama Called For Israel To Return To “1967 Borders”.” http://politicalcorrection.org/factcheck/201105260003

But Obama never called for a return to those borders. He suggested that as a starting point and clearly stated that the negotiations were to be between Israelis and Palestinians. Again, look at the map. The Israeli borders are almost the same today as they were in 1967.

Historical Israeli Maps English

For all the reactionary Zionists and right-wing fundamentalists, listen to the actual pro-Israeli statements in Obama’s speech and relax.

Clearly, Netanyahu wants no peace. And there are Arab governments, namely Iran, that don’t want to see a peace between Israelis and Palestinians either. If nothing else, pissing off Iran and other Muslim nationalists in the region should move Israel to peace talks. Furthermore, I am sure there are multinational arms dealers selling weapons to Israel and Muslim jihadists that will suffer greatly if peace breaks out in Israel and Palestine.

Not all Jewish people are as militant as the leaders of Israel are. In fact, many want peace and are willing to work for it.

Jewish Voice for Peace
http://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

Peace,
Tex Shelters

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  1. Here’s the problem. It’s the whole problem, really. In Israel, you have government dominated by the fanatical religious right – the wingnuts. When has that worked? Look at religious right-wingnuts! Awful, right? Right! Scary, right? If a left-wing government led the coalition in Israel the picture would be, well, normal. Why is everyone surprised that a government led by the nutty religious right is not working? Sure, Bibi is brilliant, erudite. He’s a Jew! Whaddya want?! But he is never gonna get this right because of the kippa on his head and his religious fundamentalism. We’re fucked in Israel without leftist or even centrist control. And that’s not happening – in time, anyway, to save us. And we’re not the only irrational ones. I’ve been shouted down in USA liberal circles: “You can’t be an American liberal and support Israel, you phoney!!!!” On MySpace, that bastion of sanity, a couple of liberals “blocked” my phony-ass profile!!! A Zionist cannot be an American liberal because everyone knows there’s only one kind of Zionist – only ONE DEFINITION FITS ALL. Well, I’m here to tell you that I’m a bona fide liberal, pro-Israel, against Israel settlements (always was), would love to see two equal states provided they WERE equal in the eyes of all neighboring nations, and am not unhappy with our president’s words. I’d love to see secular government in Israel. I am sick to death of US liberals who have the unmitigated gall to tell me what I can be and what I cannot be and who scream me down when I speak. I am sick of ignoramuses, there are so many H. sapiens ignoramuses. I have been delighted to discover that you and I are not among them, Tex. The journey has been half the fun. Fuck the dumb people.

  2. Link:

    OK, so here’s what President Barack Obama should say today about the Middle East. We will leave Afghanistan tomorrow. We will leave Iraq tomorrow. We will stop giving unconditional, craven support to Israel. Americans will force the Israelis – and the European Union – to end their siege of Gaza. We will withhold all future funding for Israel unless it ends, totally and unconditionally, its building of colonies on Arab land that does not belong to it. We will cease all co-operation and business deals with the vicious dictators of the Arab world – whether they be Saudi or Syrian or Libyan – and we will support democracy even in those countries where we have massive business interests. Oh yes, and we will talk to Hamas.

    Of course, President Barack Obama will not say this.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-presidents-fine-words-may-not-address-the-middle-easts-real-needs-2286077.html

    • AKA,

      Ah, to dream.

      I wish we had a nation where a president could be honest with us and say those things and a president who would say them.

      Obviously, you promote peace and are against all craven and violent actions in the region. And unfortunately, many extreme Zionists would call that hatred of Israel. If you don’t accept Israeli violence and hate Arabs and Palestinians, you hate Israel, according to AIPAC and their knee jerk supporters and other fundamentalists.

      Thanks.

      Peace,
      Tex Shelters

  3. Leeza,

    Thanks for the comments. I learned from you to be careful when I use the word “Zionist” and qualify it with “extremist” or “far-right” or instead call them religious zealot warmongers.

    While I don’t understand (in my heart of hearts) what it means to be Zionist, I can listen to the words and let them be. Hell, I would like a unified Ireland, but I deplore IRA violence that targets civilians (which actually happened late in the history of the IRA after Bloody Sunday and the British extrajudicial arrests of all suspected of IRA sympathies.

    Point is, I understand what is means to be for an Israeli state and against the settlements and provocations just as I deplore suicide bombers (which never did a thing politically but rile up more suicide bombers).

    Thanks again. Good summary of Prime Minister Netanyahu.

    Peace,
    Tex Shelters

    • The original meaning of “Zionist” as a word is gone, has disappeared, though, Tex. It is now merely an epithet. Solely a hate word. A word of judgment, condemnation, prejudice, scorn and disapprobation. The sense in which it is used today bears no relationship to the word’s meaning. Its use is as tenable as use of “Jewboy,” “nigger” or “wog.” Ordinary conversation wouldn’t employ the word at all, except in a history lesson among scholars.

      • And I wouldn’t expect your heart of heart to understand what it means to be a Zionist any more than your body of bodies understands what it is to be a mother.

        • I only know what it feels like to be a “mother” in the derogatory sense, as in “you mother…”

          So, what does it mean. (Feel free to post to your blog on being a Zionist, and I will reread it.)

          Peace,
          Tex Shelters

      • Okay, then what is the original meaning. I see the suffix “ist” and it concerns me, as in Nationalist, Communist, Fascist, etc.

        I don’t think the epithet comparison is exactly the save, for Zionist connotes more than just race or religion, but I get the point that it is used as a slur and that bothers you.

        Love of Israel is one thing; however, some of the religious bigots in Israel are just as bad as the jihadists in their hatred of non-Jews and willingness to kill. I can’t stand either group. And those extreme Nationalist Israelis call themselves Zionists. So for me, it’s a hard word to take. It’s like when a group in the South uses the word “heritage”. It’s hard not to think that it is a racist person. But sometimes, it could be someone who just likes fried okra, square dancing and fiddle music.

        Peace,
        Tex Shelters

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